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Old 09-07-2013, 12:28 PM
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Default Leather gunstock cartridge holder - 12g

Hi guys, I'm looking for someone in the Northwest of England to make a leather cartridge holder for my Greener shotgun. Obviously I can't send the gun out so I'm looking for someone in the Liverpool area as I'd have to travel with it.

Is there anyone interested and can you give ballpark costs?

Here's the sort of thing I'm after...

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ef665d6.jpg

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i wish i was closer mate, i'd love to have a go at that.
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Cheers Robbi, unfortunately, and for obvious reasons, the gun has to stay with me, so I'm limited to how far its worth traveling before its gets just too expensive. There's a bloke I know of in North Wales who does awesome leather work by way of his business, but when I approached him he simply said its not his bag and wasn't interested, by that I understood him to mean he doesn't want to get involved with anything to do with guns, up to him I suppose but I felt it was a bit judgmental. Anyway, I'm sure I'll find someone somewhere but thanks for the sentiment.

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Cheers Robbi, unfortunately, and for obvious reasons, the gun has to stay with me, so I'm limited to how far its worth traveling before its gets just too expensive. There's a bloke I know of in North Wales who does awesome leather work by way of his business, but when I approached him he simply said its not his bag and wasn't interested, by that I understood him to mean he doesn't want to get involved with anything to do with guns, up to him I suppose but I felt it was a bit judgmental. Anyway, I'm sure I'll find someone somewhere but thanks for the sentiment.

Ian

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No need to send stock or even have someone that close

The following measurements will get you sorted.
  • Length of leather at top of stock
  • Length of leather at bottom of stock
  • Circumference of stock at rear most of leather sleeve
    (You can do this by just approximating how far up the stock the leather starts from the rearmost point of the butt)
  • Circumference of stock at fore most of leather sleeve
    (Done as per above at foremost point from butt)
Because the leather is laced, provided the leather wrap is left a good 1/2" short of the stocks circumference fore and rear, there will be enough 'gap' for the lacing to tighten until snug.
Furthermore, provided the lacing holes are placed at least 1/2" from the bottom edge of the leather sleeve you also have the opportunity to trim the bottom edges on both sides is needed.

Another thing, ensure the inside of the wrap is not treated with edge dressing or similar it will wear the wood of the stock

Just a thought

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Tom, you've lit the fire, I'm gonna have a go at that! I couldn't see the wood for the trees but your approach is simple yet effective, I'll have to work out how to stitch the cartridge loops on but the more I look at it the easier it appears. Cheers for the pointers mate, appreciated.

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A slight extra suggestion, cut the piece and set up the eye, lace it and then wet form it around the stock - put some clingfilm on the stock to avoid any natural chemical effecting either the leather or the wood.

Dye and leave in position, laced around the stock until it's dry.

Trim and check..

Use an acrylic coat on the outside of the piece, in place over the clingfilm on the stocks.


Alongside, get a plank of wood and take a strip wide enough for the cartridge holders.

Wet form over cartridges using a staple gun to hold the ends and in between to the board. Leave to dry and remove.

Offer up to the main piece and check for size and placement.

Glue one end first and leave to dry then stitch.

Work through each loop gluing, drying and stitching until you get to the end one.

Dye and then cover in acrylic coat.

Just a rough set of steps but that's how I figure I'd go about it.

Remember also that when you glue/stitch to the main piece you are going to stretch the shape of the cartridge holders and they may be tight. You might need to experiment with making them loose on the cartridges or shape the board you make the loop section on to avoid this.

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Andy, cheers for the pointers mate, I'm gonna get some leather soon and deffo give it a shot, but as you're only 20-30 minutes away from me, should I fail miserably, I just might ask for your assistance.

Thanks again mate

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Ian, this may be useful for putting on the cartridge loops. Specifically pages 1 and 4.

http://www.willghormley-maker.com/MakingHOGRig.html

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Wow - I checked the link and what fabulous leatherwork.
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Ian, this may be useful for putting on the cartridge loops. Specifically pages 1 and 4.

http://www.willghormley-maker.com/MakingHOGRig.html

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Wow indeed, awesome!

Corin, cheers for the link, thats gonna be really helpfull, and also quite inspiring. When you see these pieces finished, you think, thats amazing I wish I could do that, bet it takes loads of skill, but it really doesn't look that difficult when you see like it is here, or at least thats my theory....lol

Deffo gonna get some gear together and have a go myself.

Cheers again, great link.

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